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		<title>By: Brent</title>
		<link>http://thingsthatarebrown.com/blog/2010/02/before-you-hire-a-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiffani,

Great insight.  As a web developer/designer, I know the value of good writing, but am not a writer myself.  I outsource the writing, and in the past have run into these issues.

I think from now on I will just send the clients over here to read this article, then let them decide if they want a professional to write, or do they just want text on the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiffani,</p>
<p>Great insight.  As a web developer/designer, I know the value of good writing, but am not a writer myself.  I outsource the writing, and in the past have run into these&nbsp;issues.</p>
<p>I think from now on I will just send the clients over here to read this article, then let them decide if they want a professional to write, or do they just want text on the&nbsp;page.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, all, for your thoughts. 

George: Kristina Halvorson&#039;s book, Content Strategy for the Web (http://www.amazon.com/Content-Strategy-Web-Kristina-Halvorson/dp/0321620062), is a great place to start.  Try Jeffrey MacIntyre and Predicate&#039;s blog, too: http://predicate-llc.com/category/link-blog/.

Matt: Thank you kindly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, all, for your&nbsp;thoughts. </p>
<p>George: Kristina Halvorson&#8217;s book, Content Strategy for the Web (<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Content-Strategy-Web-Kristina-Halvorson/dp/0321620062" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Content-Strategy-Web-Kristina-Halvorson/dp/0321620062</a>), is a great place to start.  Try Jeffrey MacIntyre and Predicate&#8217;s blog, too:&nbsp;<a href="http://predicate-llc.com/category/link-blog/" rel="nofollow">http://predicate-llc.com/category/link-blog/</a>.</p>
<p>Matt: Thank you&nbsp;kindly!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Robin</title>
		<link>http://thingsthatarebrown.com/blog/2010/02/before-you-hire-a-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Tiff! I&#039;m really glad someone, especially you, has written this. Highly significant - it needed to be said (written), and isn&#039;t practised nearly enough.  Me: I&#039;m a designer who appreciates that great writing can make a big difference to a web site, I&#039;m not a Web Writer or Editor myself, and I&#039;m a fan of your work - would consider sending clients your way (if appropriate). So it&#039;s refreshing for me to find, for the first time, a Web Writer clearly state that effective writing alone won&#039;t magically make a site brilliant...a great point!  I&#039;ve mentioned to other Web Pros, that I also support that site&#039;s content strategy should be sound before content writing takes place...(wait: does that make me unusual then?! Hahaha!)

I&#039;ll be keeping this article bookmarked for further reference to other designers and clients alike.  Cheers, Matt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Tiff! I&#8217;m really glad someone, especially you, has written this. Highly significant - it needed to be said (written), and isn&#8217;t practised nearly enough.  Me: I&#8217;m a designer who appreciates that great writing can make a big difference to a web site, I&#8217;m not a Web Writer or Editor myself, and I&#8217;m a fan of your work - would consider sending clients your way (if appropriate). So it&#8217;s refreshing for me to find, for the first time, a Web Writer clearly state that effective writing alone won&#8217;t magically make a site brilliant&#8230;a great point!  I&#8217;ve mentioned to other Web Pros, that I also support that site&#8217;s content strategy should be sound before content writing takes place&#8230;(wait: does that make me unusual then?!&nbsp;Hahaha!)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be keeping this article bookmarked for further reference to other designers and clients alike.  Cheers,&nbsp;Matt.</p>
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		<title>By: Rogers George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogers George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 00:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Google alert for &quot;good writing,&quot; and this post came up today. I found a lot more than just about good writing. I have never heard the term &quot;content strategist&quot; before, though I confess most of my writing is not for the web. Now to go follow some of those links...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Google alert for &#8220;good writing,&#8221; and this post came up today. I found a lot more than just about good writing. I have never heard the term &#8220;content strategist&#8221; before, though I confess most of my writing is not for the web. Now to go follow some of those&nbsp;links&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ahava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 23:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right!  I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself.  What&#039;s really critical is for content strategists and Web writers to have a good grasp of the technology available- that&#039;s the critical part.  They need to understand a bit of IA and a bit of design/usability and overall the user experience and how that plays into content development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right!  I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself.  What&#8217;s really critical is for content strategists and Web writers to have a good grasp of the technology available- that&#8217;s the critical part.  They need to understand a bit of IA and a bit of design/usability and overall the user experience and how that plays into content&nbsp;development.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I especially like the idea that businesses need to have their brand strategy figured out before hiring a writer. It&#039;s difficult for us writers to get on board if we have no idea where the train&#039;s headed.

Great point about the different types of writers and content strategists, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I especially like the idea that businesses need to have their brand strategy figured out before hiring a writer. It&#8217;s difficult for us writers to get on board if we have no idea where the train&#8217;s&nbsp;headed.</p>
<p>Great point about the different types of writers and content strategists, as&nbsp;well.</p>
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		<title>By: Noreen Compton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noreen Compton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a lot of good points, and I hope clients are listening :)

A problem I run into a lot is the one you said you recently had - clients think &quot;ok, web writer needed&quot; when they are building a web site, but they don&#039;t get the &quot;strategy&quot; part of content. So copywriting is done at the end of the IA and design. Even when they start the copywriting at the beginning of the project, it doesn&#039;t help if it isn&#039;t integrated with the other disciplines.

As a Web Writer, I expect to collaborate to some extent with other members of the team. But certainly when working as a Content Strategist, I expect that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a lot of good points, and I hope clients are listening <img src='http://thingsthatarebrown.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A problem I run into a lot is the one you said you recently had - clients think &#8220;ok, web writer needed&#8221; when they are building a web site, but they don&#8217;t get the &#8220;strategy&#8221; part of content. So copywriting is done at the end of the IA and design. Even when they start the copywriting at the beginning of the project, it doesn&#8217;t help if it isn&#8217;t integrated with the other&nbsp;disciplines.</p>
<p>As a Web Writer, I expect to collaborate to some extent with other members of the team. But certainly when working as a Content Strategist, I expect&nbsp;that.</p>
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